Jessie Stephens

You didn't even know was sexually possible, right?

And we're also in a culture that is a lot more open about queer sex and different types of sex and all that.

And I wonder if that's the awakening too.

And it is a theme in this article that a lot of the women that are her age, 50, are having relationships with men who are 30 or younger.

And that's what porn has done, if we're going to look at it all positively, is that it has taken some of the shame out of desire.

And if you're now entering a sexual world where you can put your shame to the side, then just like in Baby Girl, it's like you can have this experience that you never thought was even possible.

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We'll be back to regular programming on Monday, 12th of January.

That's fine.

We're so close.

We're also going to give you our recos for the week.

We have two podcasts and a very sexy TV show.

The Sydney Morning Herald came out with a very controversial list.

They took a leaflet out of our book.

Yeah.

And they listed seven tacky Christmas traditions.

Tacky.

Okay.