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Jia Tolentino

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1998 total appearances

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The White Lotus Official Podcast
Ep.8: “Amor Fati” with Natasha Rothwell

It's like the best we can get out of this character changing is like the realization that he's not, you know, American Psycho after all or whatever. He looks at Chloe, the female version of him, and is like, no.

The White Lotus Official Podcast
Ep.8: “Amor Fati” with Natasha Rothwell

It's like the best we can get out of this character changing is like the realization that he's not, you know, American Psycho after all or whatever. He looks at Chloe, the female version of him, and is like, no.

The White Lotus Official Podcast
Ep.8: “Amor Fati” with Natasha Rothwell

Whereas the first episode, he was like, that's all I want.

The White Lotus Official Podcast
Ep.8: “Amor Fati” with Natasha Rothwell

Whereas the first episode, he was like, that's all I want.

The White Lotus Official Podcast
Ep.8: “Amor Fati” with Natasha Rothwell

And he realizes, like, again, he's vulnerable after the Lachlan thing, but he has realized that he's soulless and no one will ever get close to him unless he has a soul. And I do remember thinking, like, what I want for him.

The White Lotus Official Podcast
Ep.8: “Amor Fati” with Natasha Rothwell

And he realizes, like, again, he's vulnerable after the Lachlan thing, but he has realized that he's soulless and no one will ever get close to him unless he has a soul. And I do remember thinking, like, what I want for him.

The White Lotus Official Podcast
Ep.8: “Amor Fati” with Natasha Rothwell

Do you remember when I said, like, I wanted for him this season to confront the unknowable other, to confront the sort of unassimilability of just another person right in front of you and how kind of terrifying and amazing that is. And he's never experienced that. And I wanted him to brush right up against it.

The White Lotus Official Podcast
Ep.8: “Amor Fati” with Natasha Rothwell

Do you remember when I said, like, I wanted for him this season to confront the unknowable other, to confront the sort of unassimilability of just another person right in front of you and how kind of terrifying and amazing that is. And he's never experienced that. And I wanted him to brush right up against it.

The White Lotus Official Podcast
Ep.8: “Amor Fati” with Natasha Rothwell

And I thought he was doing it in the funny way when he accidentally had a threesome with his brother.

The White Lotus Official Podcast
Ep.8: “Amor Fati” with Natasha Rothwell

And I thought he was doing it in the funny way when he accidentally had a threesome with his brother.

The White Lotus Official Podcast
Ep.8: “Amor Fati” with Natasha Rothwell

But instead, he was doing it when he saw that Chelsea actually loved that something seemed so transactional. And actually, it was love, illogical love. And he wanted it. And we love that for him. The family interaction that precedes the death smoothie is when Saxon is like, worship me, but don't jack me off, bro. Lachlan's reading his tsunami book that is foreshadowing his near death.

The White Lotus Official Podcast
Ep.8: “Amor Fati” with Natasha Rothwell

But instead, he was doing it when he saw that Chelsea actually loved that something seemed so transactional. And actually, it was love, illogical love. And he wanted it. And we love that for him. The family interaction that precedes the death smoothie is when Saxon is like, worship me, but don't jack me off, bro. Lachlan's reading his tsunami book that is foreshadowing his near death.

The White Lotus Official Podcast
Ep.8: “Amor Fati” with Natasha Rothwell

And he's like, I'm a pleaser. I come from a family of narcissists. And he clearly feels trapped by his family. And Saxon says, he's like, he says, no one's going to make you a man, okay? You got to do it yourself, which is like him talking to himself. You know, you're not talking to Lachlan at all.

The White Lotus Official Podcast
Ep.8: “Amor Fati” with Natasha Rothwell

And he's like, I'm a pleaser. I come from a family of narcissists. And he clearly feels trapped by his family. And Saxon says, he's like, he says, no one's going to make you a man, okay? You got to do it yourself, which is like him talking to himself. You know, you're not talking to Lachlan at all.

The White Lotus Official Podcast
Ep.8: “Amor Fati” with Natasha Rothwell

He's doing his best. And then Lachlan's like, you know what? It's been a confusing week. I'm just going to make a smoothie with one scoop of protein powder, water, and this poison stuff.

The White Lotus Official Podcast
Ep.8: “Amor Fati” with Natasha Rothwell

He's doing his best. And then Lachlan's like, you know what? It's been a confusing week. I'm just going to make a smoothie with one scoop of protein powder, water, and this poison stuff.

The White Lotus Official Podcast
Ep.8: “Amor Fati” with Natasha Rothwell

He tells his dad that he thinks he just saw God, but what we see him see is four figures hovering above him in the daylight that he's trying to swim to through black water. And at first I thought it was the family, then it is the silhouettes of four monks.

The White Lotus Official Podcast
Ep.8: “Amor Fati” with Natasha Rothwell

He tells his dad that he thinks he just saw God, but what we see him see is four figures hovering above him in the daylight that he's trying to swim to through black water. And at first I thought it was the family, then it is the silhouettes of four monks.

The White Lotus Official Podcast
Ep.8: “Amor Fati” with Natasha Rothwell

That's what I thought was going to happen. Yeah, that's what I thought too. I mean, the general sort of Oedipus-esque trajectory of the thing you fear the most is the thing that you cause.

The White Lotus Official Podcast
Ep.8: “Amor Fati” with Natasha Rothwell

That's what I thought was going to happen. Yeah, that's what I thought too. I mean, the general sort of Oedipus-esque trajectory of the thing you fear the most is the thing that you cause.