Jia Tolentino

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981 appearances 13 recordings 3 series first heard Dec 2024 last heard Apr 2025

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And she couldn't last in this world.
And he'll be like, I know, I know.
Do you think, what do you think about Guy Talk?
I think there's also, if I were to try to posit what this season thought some teleological idea to aspire towards is, it's like the people that also make it out are the people that understand themselves to be works in progress. Like constantly failing works in progress. But it's like, you know, Frank does, certainly. Chelsea does, certainly. Laurie does, right?
And like Lachlan now, like he says it explicitly, like maybe it's just a test to see if you can become a better person day by day, year by year, whatever it is, White Lotus trip to White Lotus trip. And I think there is – I don't know. Like I do think that that stands up and the belief system that very clearly fails you in every possible way.
Narratively, spiritually, emotionally, in terms of your various happy endings is like, you know, you know, and you've got it and you're good. Every single person that thinks that will fail.
Right. It's your instincts. It's your instincts about like, I don't know. Yeah. Like fixity and change or trying.
Thank you.
Mike, thank you so much for talking to us today.
Dave Burnad told the story about you being on a nebulizer when you were in Thailand early on, and the season materializing in your mind, almost fully formed from that nebulizer.
What was in it?
Yeah, it's like everyone gets scrambled. Like there are some people get their fortunes reversed completely. Some people like Belinda just ascend at the very last minute. Did you have a sense when you thought about putting Belinda back in, you were like, OK, like she's going to she's going to get hers at this season?
And Tanya and someone else, yeah.
At the beginning of the season, we're introduced to the Ratliffs. I wonder if you can talk more about that plot line and the sort of, like, Southern Gothic, you know, like, dynamic between the siblings and the parents. You know, there's a lot going on with that family. I wonder if you could just talk about that.
A bit of an Austro-Hungarian royalty vibes, yeah.
Death smoothie and rom-com, like, in the same 15 minutes. You can tell, though, like, after she comes back, she stops dressing like Wendy from Peter Pan and, like, puts on, like, a... Exactly.
It's funny to hearing you talk about it. Right. It's like Lachlan he's, you know, these siblings have this idea of how the world should be approached. And Lachlan's like, yeah, Yeah, I'm going to go 200 times as hard on it as you have. And both Saxon and Piper are like, oh, actually, no, no, no, no, no. Like both of them immediately like, oh, they withdraw.
It's like he's the stress test for their ideology and both crumble instantly. Like, actually, don't jack me off. Actually, don't move to the monastery. I'm good. We're good.
I wanted to ask about Mook and Guy Talk, who go from, you know, having this unbelievable sort of quiet intimacy and fondness. And they've known each other since they were kids. And, you know, you're really rooting for them. And then as their storyline develops, you're like, Mook's like, unless I see you kill someone, I will not even go to dinner with you.
You know, like, I'm unhappy sitting across from you unless you were showing me that you're fluent in masculine aggression, which is what I want, and you be the bodyguard, et cetera.
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