Jillian Michaels

We can't take away that they haven't been given evidence-based health options because when they go to a doctor, they're told to go lose weight.

When fat gets deposited in the brain... But you're not answering what I'm saying.

How does... I'm confused.

Are you suggesting these are the reasons?

Do people become overweight?

No, I'm suggesting that a person could be in a larger body and be perfectly healthy based on their lab, their cholesterol.

Do you realize that only 7% of people who are classified as overweight or obese, call it whatever you guys feel comfortable with, only 7% are classified as healthy.

Say that was true.

I can go grab the data for you right now if you want.

Say we knew for certain that it was unhealthy, that what you're saying is true.

And here's the classification.

But even then, we'd be in this place where, okay, so what do we do?

Are we going to send someone down a path of trying to lose weight and then gaining and trying and gaining?

And we know that weight cycling in and of itself, bad for the heart, bad for insulin, bad for the brain, bad for all the things.

We work with that individual.

That's what I do in my private practice.

Well, that's wonderful.

Yeah.

And I don't encourage weight loss because it's unethical.

I disagree with you.