Jillian Michaels

eliminates any conflating factors because they're based on genetic predispositions coupled with lifestyle.

But can I just share something?

A person in a larger body has experienced things that we can't undo from the fat.

So for example, they might have negative health outcomes because every time they go to a doctor, instead of being given an evidence-based treatment, like I have unearned thin privilege, I go to a doctor, I say, you know, my stomach hurts.

I get a full workup.

You're basically saying the earth is flat, right?

Are you trying to tell me that having fat in your liver, having fat in your heart, having fat deposited in your brain is healthy?

No, I just want to talk about... Okay, so no, you're not trying to say that it's healthy.

No, I'm not trying to tell you that is what I said.

I was never talking about the health of it.

I'm trying to say everything you're saying is hinging on this idea and it's a problem that we disagree on it, that it's the weight in and of itself that leads to the negative health outcomes.

You're saying this MRT totally... Fat is an endocrine organ.

I know, but can you... It destroys your hormone balance.

It creates insulin sensitivity.

When the body has too much fat, it releases insane amounts of different- I just wonder, have you heard of social determinants of health?

Tell me about it.

Okay.

Social determinants of health, a group of factors that impact someone's health outcomes that are things like your healthcare access and quality, neighborhood and built environment, things like your stress levels, socioeconomic status.

Here's the thing.

A person who's fat or lives in a larger body, we can't take away that that person has probably experienced higher stress levels their whole life from experiencing marginalization every corner, from shows like The Biggest Loser to The Doctor's Office.