Jillian Michaels

So, so to be fair, like we did have some conversations about this, but she's also been trying to help me cast certain people on my podcast and just been having random conversations about different stuff.

So that's Dean list.

So to be fair, like if there's a,

Shame is a signal.

It's telling you, hey, look over here.

But shame from the world.

I'm not talking about shaming someone.

Fundamentally disagree with that concept.

I'm talking about the shame that is already there, not externalizing it.

I'm talking about appreciating the fact like, okay, this is arising from within me.

Where is this coming from and why?

What is the primal injury

that got this emotion and subsequently, how do I deal with it where it's appropriate?

Meaning the right, like not Victoria's Secret, okay?

The primal wound.

And then in experiencing that loss, feeling those feelings, which really sucks and really hurts, which is why people have defense structures, coping mechanisms, so on and so forth.

The way through that, you feel it.

And then after you grieve it, after you explore it, then we can implement a weight release.

Well, first of all, thank you, sweetheart.

And it's absolutely a mutual admiration and appreciation for the way you communicate and the way you present yourself and who you are in the world.