Jillian Michaels

Nice to meet you.

So I think the language there is a little bit tone deaf just because I actually believe that gym talk, diet culture oversimplifies eating disorders.

Two separate issues though.

Both can be true at the same time.

Both can be true as in?

As in you could absolutely be making, first of all, gym talk should have nothing to do with eating disorders.

So you're right.

But it's a separate issue than the claim I'm making.

How is it separate?

Okay, so you're saying gym talk oversimplifies trauma and eating disorders, right?

Well, not just gym talk, but just the way that our youth, all of us are

we are all exposed to that, like we can't just avoid it.

And when you see- It's still a separate issue though.

I'm trying to say that the ways body positivity suggests people deal with body issues and trauma

is an oversimplification, and it has to do with things like intuitive eating principles that get misrepresented by influencers.

Okay, I can definitely agree with that.

Unfortunately, you and I are so far on the same page.

Well, the way I see it is that body positivity is actually the bridge between health experts and anybody else, really.

Explain it.

Because I think that...