Jillian Nelson

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292 appearances 1 recordings 1 series first heard Jun 2025 last heard Jun 2025

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Like I really do.
um follow like more of the social norms of the male lobbyist when I come up here.
And that was really interesting to me.
And I and I won't lie, it kind of set me into like this whole search trying to figure out, well, am I non-binary?
Am I gender non-conforming?
What does that mean?
And then I'll be honest, it made my head hurt and I realized I'm 40 something years old.
It doesn't actually matter um what my gender identity is.
I'm just gonna live as myself.
And I stopped thinking about it.
Um, because it was stressing me out.
But yeah, no, I can one hundred percent agree with that.
Like I don't think any of us are really fully conform to those gender norms or those standards.
Um we kind of don't pick it up naturally, so we just perform the gender we identify as
in the way that makes the most sense to us.
Um, I think
Interdependence, I was just
I was actually just in a conversation about this this weekend, um, at a partners in policy making graduation.
Um, I think sometimes we get stuck on this idea that, um, I'll be a leader or
I'll make change or I'll help the system.
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