Jim Leland

But when you're a backup catcher at this time...

and you got a chance to play for a long time you need to just keep your mouth shut and just be thrilled to death that you're in the big leagues and he went on to really have a nice career and I'm actually kind of proud of that because I think in some way I think it helped him so it wasn't that I was picking on him or anything like that I was just trying to

teach him a good lesson, you know.

I mean, superstars can get away.

Let's face it, whether it's right or wrong, superstars get away with comments that the 25th player can't get away with.

That's just as simple as it is.

It might not be right, but that's the way it is.

No, I told him, I said, if I jump up in here and never come down, you go.

Well, it's not really blowing off steam.

A lot of times, I don't go so much anymore because I moved out of the city.

So I kind of sit around and sometimes watch the late innings in my office, and then I just go home.

But a lot of times, it's really a peaceful relaxation for me to go over and just go somewhere up in a corner over there and sit.

It's kind of a no-brainer.

People say, gee, you're not using any brain power.

Well, I don't really want to use brain power at that time.

I just like to relax and relax.

have a cup of coffee or a Coke and sit there and, you know, mind my own business.

And you're kind of just relieved of everything.

And I really enjoy it.

But I don't get over it quite as much as I used to.