Jim Norton

Because otherwise, I'm just literally, it's like you're carving away at something and there's nothing left anymore.

Because otherwise, I'm just literally, it's like you're carving away at something and there's nothing left anymore.

No, not at all.

No, not at all.

No, not at all.

Yeah. And that's interesting to do it like a different order. Sometimes I'll do that. Like I do a Wednesday show in New York at the Fat Black Pussycat where I just run the hour and I work on it. You know, you just go through it. And sometimes, you know, you start with the closer and then work your way backwards and go, is the opening strong enough to close? Sometimes it's not.

Yeah. And that's interesting to do it like a different order. Sometimes I'll do that. Like I do a Wednesday show in New York at the Fat Black Pussycat where I just run the hour and I work on it. You know, you just go through it. And sometimes, you know, you start with the closer and then work your way backwards and go, is the opening strong enough to close? Sometimes it's not.

Yeah. And that's interesting to do it like a different order. Sometimes I'll do that. Like I do a Wednesday show in New York at the Fat Black Pussycat where I just run the hour and I work on it. You know, you just go through it. And sometimes, you know, you start with the closer and then work your way backwards and go, is the opening strong enough to close? Sometimes it's not.

Sometimes it's like, no, the build is kind of what made that better. But yeah, it's ballsy to do that. Like when you're on the road in front of a lot of people.

Sometimes it's like, no, the build is kind of what made that better. But yeah, it's ballsy to do that. Like when you're on the road in front of a lot of people.

Sometimes it's like, no, the build is kind of what made that better. But yeah, it's ballsy to do that. Like when you're on the road in front of a lot of people.

Switching that 15 minutes.

Switching that 15 minutes.

Switching that 15 minutes.

yeah you know well sometimes it ends and you're like yeah i shouldn't have done that yeah that was a bad move i should have done that in front of 50 people on a workout night instead of yeah instead of uh i'm back on tour now fine like i i had taken time off and i'm not with the radio show anymore so it's like it's weird with you and sam yeah that's i'm that was it serious for 20 years wow wow

yeah you know well sometimes it ends and you're like yeah i shouldn't have done that yeah that was a bad move i should have done that in front of 50 people on a workout night instead of yeah instead of uh i'm back on tour now fine like i i had taken time off and i'm not with the radio show anymore so it's like it's weird with you and sam yeah that's i'm that was it serious for 20 years wow wow

yeah you know well sometimes it ends and you're like yeah i shouldn't have done that yeah that was a bad move i should have done that in front of 50 people on a workout night instead of yeah instead of uh i'm back on tour now fine like i i had taken time off and i'm not with the radio show anymore so it's like it's weird with you and sam yeah that's i'm that was it serious for 20 years wow wow

Yeah, it was a lot of talking and we just couldn't, you know, they just didn't want to pay it. And I knew it was coming. Like, you know what I mean? Like you see it and it's like, whatever. It's a little scary because it's the first time you're like without that comfortable thing to go to where everything is set up. You just walk in and talk.

Yeah, it was a lot of talking and we just couldn't, you know, they just didn't want to pay it. And I knew it was coming. Like, you know what I mean? Like you see it and it's like, whatever. It's a little scary because it's the first time you're like without that comfortable thing to go to where everything is set up. You just walk in and talk.

Yeah, it was a lot of talking and we just couldn't, you know, they just didn't want to pay it. And I knew it was coming. Like, you know what I mean? Like you see it and it's like, whatever. It's a little scary because it's the first time you're like without that comfortable thing to go to where everything is set up. You just walk in and talk.