Jimmy Gomez

And if they can't convict you, they're going to bankrupt you because of the amount of money it's going to cost you to get an attorney and defend yourself.

So yeah, we're in a very serious situation.

But we've got to do it all.

And one of the things I'm doing, I'm holding

legal observer trainings in my community.

So people can record ICE and if they see something, record it and we will take it into the oversight committee's portal and we'll save that information because we will end up holding them accountable one way or the other.

And so... It is going to get worse.

But Don, in leadership, when you're actually leading, you have to make sure people are behind you.

You have to make sure that people...

know what's truly going on.

The people that might watch your show or watch some of the influencers are getting a certain version of events.

You watch Fox News, it's a completely different version.

When you watch these other influencers, more on the right wing or MAGA side or Trumpista side, they're getting a certain version.

The way we break that is we have to go to those communities.

We have to have those hard conversations.

And that's part of the big problem that we face in America, that the media ecosystem is so fragmented.

Whatever you believe, you can find something that basically gives evidence to that belief.

In order to win, not only do we fight on these fronts, but we have to go into the red areas and show

them what is going on.

We're not going to win all of them.