Jimmy Gomez

But Don, in leadership, when you're actually leading, you have to make sure people are behind you.

You have to make sure that people...

know what's truly going on.

The people that might watch your show or watch some of the influencers are getting a certain version of events.

You watch Fox News, it's a completely different version.

When you watch these other influencers, more on the right wing or MAGA side or Trumpista side, they're getting a certain version.

The way we break that is we have to go to those communities.

We have to have those hard conversations.

And that's part of the big problem that we face in America, that the media ecosystem is so fragmented.

Whatever you believe, you can find something that basically gives evidence to that belief.

In order to win, not only do we fight on these fronts, but we have to go into the red areas and show

them what is going on.

We're not going to win all of them.

But we only need to win a fraction of them to bring them to our side.

But talking to the people that are on your side is not enough.

I am.

I agree with his assessment that Trump threatening to take Greenland is so destabilizing for a number of reasons.

One, it ends up basically you're attacking one of your own allies.

ripping up the NATO alliance that has helped maintain peace, and creates a situation where we're in an arms race across not only Europe, but across the globe.

If Europe arms up even more, then Russia, China arm up even more.