João Nuno Simões

But that's fun.

That's the fun part about the job, about the community, you know, because remember, many of these guys are multimillionaires.

They don't want to be out there randomly talking with people, you know.

And some of these guys, it's not the guys that you just approach them and it's like, give me your contact, let's talk.

No, like, for example, the other day I met one guy that got the hair drop and he literally said, like, I'm retired, you know, like, I don't need anything.

I just went to this event to meet my friends.

And that's valid.

You know, it's my job to talk with this guy and meet eye to eye and say, OK, cool.

So if you want to meet friends, let me be your friend first and then we can talk business later.

It's fine, you know, but you need to be in those places.

You need to travel a lot.

You know how it is.

You are a hardcore BD.

Exactly right.

You just need to go and go and go.

And the more you go and the more you push and the more you are present, the more you have the right type of contest, the more you have the right type of people.

And then business just flows in because, and I'm going to quote a guy and I'm not going to say his name, but if he knows, if he sees this, he will know.

There's the BD from SSV and he's like very famous.

You probably know him and he travels everywhere.

He's everywhere.