Jo Jarvis

I mean, as you say, people do it for a reason and it felt, no matter, even if it felt bad, it presumably felt better than you were feeling without it at that point somehow.

So how did that come to an end?

What was the turning point for you around alcohol?

So is this at the point in your life, Jo, when you find meditation?

You took up this practice and ended up training as a teacher of Vedic meditation and then one day had a meeting with a senior teacher who was visiting Sydney and you asked him if he had any advice for you.

What happened?

How did people react, Jo, when you said, I'm leaving ABC News Radio, I'm leaving my life in Sydney and I'm going to New York?

When that terror and excitement built and you took that step and booked a plane ticket and arrived in New York, what was that first week like?

Did it feel like it was living up to your teenage fantasies or was there moments of thinking, oh my God, what have I done?

And how do you find the amazing pace, the energy of New York?

How does that suit you?

But I can hear you as like a true New Yorker.

You're saying that with a smile in your voice.

Like, yeah, I was lying there in the middle of 2nd Avenue.

No one even came for me.

That's the city.

A few months after arriving in New York, you acquired a dog.

How did that happen?

So speaking of the other love of your life, you met her that same week.

You maybe despite Tony or because of Tony, you and Susan ended up getting married.