Joan Mulvihill

So we'll make some cheap populist kind of, oh yeah, go with the flow on that.

And then we'll say,

earnestly to the camera.

This is serious teenagers.

We must protect the youth and be decisive and strong.

And I'm going, yeah, that's not how to do decisive and strong.

That's just a quick point score.

It's a quick landing a punch, but you're a boxer, Jim, but you know that that's not going to, that's not going to get you through 12 rounds.

It's not going to get you to the end.

It's just a cheap punch and it doesn't actually achieve an awful lot.

So what?

So I think we have to be, if you were to look at the long, long term, and I was looking at Europe,

you know, the whole question of digital sovereignty is now coming up, the capacity for countries to move away from the reliance on large US technology multinationals and develop our own.

And that's going to be a big question that will determine whether or not Europe can lead in relation to the ethical deployment of AI and the management and control of how far it goes.

But we're all stuck in globalization now, aren't we?

So if it happens in one place, it happens to all of us anyway.

We don't say it.

We don't own it.

But like, I mean, I worked for Siemens for seven years and I look at industrial automation.

I mean, that's the end goal of industrial automation.