Joan Mulvihill

And, you know, the book is incredible.

She's not allowed to promote it.

And I said, yes, I know you can't, but I can.

And I really, really recommend people read it because you've got to, no matter how bad you think they are on the surface level about how you experience tech or your idea of the impact of technology on your teenagers, you've got to read that book.

And I also wrote a post recently about my eyebrows are being incredibly expressive and they give me away all the time, but it is the most eyebrow raising book I've ever read in my life.

I looked like I had Botox.

My eyebrows were in the back of my head.

I seriously, it was so shocking.

I got a friend of mine to read it and she was messaging me down in Waterford, actually a neighbor of yours, and she's worked in tech.

But Joan, I know the tech story.

I said,

You don't know this story.

It is such a good read.

And it's so well written because it actually almost reads like fiction because it's hard to believe that they're that depraved.

But I really, it's light too.

I mean, you can read it, be shocked and horrified, but you fly through it.

It's such a page turner.

It's brilliant.

Well, you know, I remember my comment back to you was people can tell truth.

You can tell the truth in Careless People and you can tell the spin in Hillbilly.