Joan Mulvihill

We'll come back to that another time.

And I'm going, but which day will be the day?

Which day are we going to ask the questions or call a halt or lead...

completely to action.

And I think that's why that article that you read, that it put in very clear action items that could be policy items, real policy items.

We have to start taking those things seriously or we are not upholding the standards for future generations.

And I think I look at it like climate change and how we have been talking about it since I was a child.

um i was very aware of climate change desertification deforestation as a teenager i'm 53 i don't know that we've made that much real progress i don't even know on this island that we've made that much real real progress in terms of reforestation for example i look at some of the policy decisions again that i read in the substack and if we were looking at um

Do you know that big ice blob that's coming down from the Arctic?

And it kind of drives bear belts that keeps us in this lovely temperature and it's expanding.

And the Nordics and Iceland have all identified this as this is...

existentially critical for us.

And Ireland apparently has it as like a footnote.

And I'm going, I don't think our island is that different today or is climatically in terms of how we should be considering this.

And we're so all in on being good partners in Europe.

I think the best way to be a good partner is to be an honest partner.

And that's how I see my role in tech.

The best way for me to be a good technology advocate is...

is to be an honest one and to say, I'm not going to drink all the Kool-Aid.

I'm not going to say all the tech is good and we need to power on and push through because that's just wrong.