Jodi Kantor

It feels like we should know.

I don't agree with you.

Like as an investigative reporter, what I would tell you is that it was very hard for investigators to find out.

I don't know if we'll ever know.

Tim, I don't know...

I don't know that it's established that the Politico reporters knew who their source was.

They could have gotten that opinion in a brown paper envelope in the mail.

I don't think they've spoken about it, which is not surprising.

Well, I mean, the reason I think it's a substantive question and the reason I think you're right to raise it is that we can never forget –

That somebody tried to interfere with one of the most important Supreme Court decisions of our time.

Like, look, I have put, you know, as we just discussed, private material from the justices into the paper.

But that was after the decision was made.

So Politico had newsworthy information.

They were right to publish, of course.

But there was...

Clearly somebody who wanted to have some effect on something, right?

Correct.

If we want our Supreme Court to be independent of interference, you're asking a fair and salient question.

Right.

Okay, I'll meet you.