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Joe Allen

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Bannon`s War Room
WarRoom Battleground EP 874: AI Psychosis: The Disorder Of The Masses

He knows these people.

Bannon`s War Room
WarRoom Battleground EP 874: AI Psychosis: The Disorder Of The Masses

He's watched it up close.

Bannon`s War Room
WarRoom Battleground EP 874: AI Psychosis: The Disorder Of The Masses

And you had first Google say,

Bannon`s War Room
WarRoom Battleground EP 874: AI Psychosis: The Disorder Of The Masses

begin in around 2012 or 13, really pushing the idea we are going to create artificial general intelligence.

Bannon`s War Room
WarRoom Battleground EP 874: AI Psychosis: The Disorder Of The Masses

You then had Musk and Sam Altman and Ilya Setskever form OpenAI as a open

Bannon`s War Room
WarRoom Battleground EP 874: AI Psychosis: The Disorder Of The Masses

nonprofit, publicly monitored, transparent company to compete with Google.

Bannon`s War Room
WarRoom Battleground EP 874: AI Psychosis: The Disorder Of The Masses

They were saying, we will create artificial general intelligence, but we will do it safely and openly.

Bannon`s War Room
WarRoom Battleground EP 874: AI Psychosis: The Disorder Of The Masses

Obviously, that didn't happen.

Bannon`s War Room
WarRoom Battleground EP 874: AI Psychosis: The Disorder Of The Masses

Musk left.

Bannon`s War Room
WarRoom Battleground EP 874: AI Psychosis: The Disorder Of The Masses

Ilya left.

Bannon`s War Room
WarRoom Battleground EP 874: AI Psychosis: The Disorder Of The Masses

I don't know about their motives, but I do know that as that began to branch out, you had Dario Amadei and Jack Clark leave OpenAI to form Anthropic.

Bannon`s War Room
WarRoom Battleground EP 874: AI Psychosis: The Disorder Of The Masses

You had Musk leave, and then eventually, right after signing the Future of Life statement, calling for a pause on AI, right after that, Musk announces XAI is open for business.

Bannon`s War Room
WarRoom Battleground EP 874: AI Psychosis: The Disorder Of The Masses

And now you've got...

Bannon`s War Room
WarRoom Battleground EP 874: AI Psychosis: The Disorder Of The Masses

multiple frontier companies.

Bannon`s War Room
WarRoom Battleground EP 874: AI Psychosis: The Disorder Of The Masses

And they all, because they've got a lot of the same employees moving back and forth, a lot of the same ideas, and a lot of this is already open, they are copying each other and building these systems up.

Bannon`s War Room
WarRoom Battleground EP 874: AI Psychosis: The Disorder Of The Masses

And so what you end up with, the way Tegmark describes it is basically you have all these CEOs with a kind of messiah complex.

Bannon`s War Room
WarRoom Battleground EP 874: AI Psychosis: The Disorder Of The Masses

And they believe that if they are the ones to create the system, they will be able to resist their own kind of inner demons and create something benevolent.

Bannon`s War Room
WarRoom Battleground EP 874: AI Psychosis: The Disorder Of The Masses

I agree with Tegmark that that's the dynamic, and I also agree with him that that is delusional.

Bannon`s War Room
WarRoom Battleground EP 874: AI Psychosis: The Disorder Of The Masses

These people are not even in command of their most base instincts, let alone in possession of some kind of moral high ground.

Bannon`s War Room
WarRoom Battleground EP 874: AI Psychosis: The Disorder Of The Masses

I was at that hearing, actually.