Joe Allen

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3,496 appearances 36 recordings 2 series first heard Oct 2016 last heard 15 Sep

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Bannon`s War Room · WarRoom Battleground EP 1059: Free WillAn Human Agency Without AI · 4 Aug 2026 podcast

It showed all of this promise as far as being able to, you know, quote unquote, understand language and communicate.

And it was, I don't really understand the money markets like you do.

So I didn't really see it happening like it has.

It's been astounding.

All of this money pouring into this idea that they can create a non-human mind that can do anything a human can do, but most likely better.

And all of the people driving this, from Sam Altman, Elon Musk, Demis Hassabis at Google DeepMind, even Mark Zuckerberg, and of course, Dario Amadei at Anthropic, all of them, as they create this technology, as they take in these trillions of dollars, are telling us

All of them that at some point, whether it's this year or five years or 10 years, at some point, this technology will advance beyond any human being on earth.

The most brilliant man you ever knew is going to be dwarfed by this machine and the machine will be able to improve itself.

The recursive self-improvement leads to what is known as an intelligence explosion, meaning that humans are then demoted to second-class beings on planet Earth, and the AI occupies the place that once was occupied by gods.

So yeah, it doesn't surprise me, I guess, that you have investors falling all over themselves to make money off of the end of the human race, or at least our demotion to pets or slaves or biofuel.

But at the same time, it caught me by surprise.

Talking about the actual technological developments, the...

What you're hearing now about the various rogue AIs breaking out and hacking into other systems, this really is just the beginning of something that could well go out of control if it's not contained in some way.

Joe, hang on.

Yeah, this is oftentimes compared to the nuclear age, right?

Artificial intelligence is the new nuclear bomb.

And it is, I think, as far as the magnitude of the technology's power, I think it's an accurate comparison, but there's a lot of differences.

One of the big differences is

that nuclear physicists understood, for the most part, exactly, down to the atomic scale, exactly what was happening in a nuclear explosion or in a reactor.

In the case of artificial intelligence, they know, of course, how they build the scaffolding of the brain, the architecture of the AI.

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