Joe Allen

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3,496 appearances 36 recordings 2 series first heard Oct 2016 last heard 15 Sep

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So when you talk about regulation, Steve, you know, we have been calling for regulation.
Well, the regulation is definitely
coming.
It's coming in the EU.
It's been there in China and it's coming to the US.
We already have it at the state level.
It's moving towards the federal level, both as laws enacted by Congress that will probably take quite a bit more time, but especially policies set by the executive branch.
And this is, we're going to get it.
The question now is what sort of
of regulation do we get?
Do we get the kind of regulatory capture that people have been warning about in which the big companies set the terms to basically elbow out their competitors?
Well, I think what we need to look at in regard to this, the two things that we're going to see.
First, you have the push for a kill switch.
so that the federal government, or some agency within the federal government more specifically, is able to hit the kill switch, hit the e-stop, so that if one of these AI models is determined to be going rogue, and the company itself doesn't make the choice, as OpenAI and Anthropic have done, at least on the surface,
that to stop it then the federal government has a specific plan a specific path to kill the AI to pull the plug I think that's going to be really important you already have a bill that has been introduced to set that apparatus up the second thing is going to be liability if an AI model goes rogue who is responsible for it is it the model is responsible that's insane that's crazy
Most likely, surely, if we live in anything like a sane world, liability will fall on the people making these AIs and deploying these AIs.
And I think that it's quite possible you end up in situations where the person that
who deploys it is different from the company who made it, and both are held liable for simply bringing that capability into the public square.
So yeah, these are two things we really are going to see a lot more about.
Liability, who is responsible?
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