Joe Apfelbaum

Oh, okay.

Got it.

Got it.

So this is much more like a real estate boy almost.

Yeah.

It's, it's a profitable company.

And you know, to begin with, they saw the types of entrepreneurs that we were and they wanted to invest in us.

And that's really what it was about.

It wasn't about the company.

It was two entrepreneurs that were really heated up, excited about doing something and,

They were involved with many B2B companies as well, and they just wanted to be involved in a marketing company, and we were the right pick.

Okay, the podcast, CEO Mojo, what year did you launch it in?

I launched it in 2000.

So I initially launched it in 2014 and I relaunched it this year.

My goal this year is to interview 52 CEOs that have built seven-figure businesses from scratch, doing weekly interviews with many of them that I just have relationships with.

And my goal is to figure out what are the challenges that they have to go through in order for them to be able to achieve seven-figure businesses from scratch.

What?

Yeah.

Yeah.

So in the first year, it was like, you know, a couple thousand downloads.