Joe Apfelbaum

Yeah, that makes sense.

So for them, it's just basically they're printing.

When they use our services, they're basically just printing money.

Yeah.

So our, our average retainer for clients, we work with midsize companies that are 5 million to 50 million in revenue.

And our average retainer is $10,000 a month.

And how many months do they stay on average?

Right now, our average is over a year.

It used to be eight months.

And do you require 120 grand up front to work at all?

No, no, it's a monthly thing that we do.

And when a client signs up, they're usually on, especially with the services that we're, with our focus and with having fewer clients and the type of the level of service that we can give them with marketing automation and search engine optimization and Google AdWords and landing page and the type of marketing support and execution that we're able to provide for these mid-sized companies is unparalleled.

Yeah.

So right now our company completely changed in the past year.

So the companies that we've been able to pick up have stayed with us.

And we completely changed our focus to more geographically local companies to the New York city area that are higher revenue, higher, they get a better level of service and we've gotten rid of most of the clients and 90% of the clients that call us, if you're running an SEO agency or a PPC agency right now, and you're looking for smaller clients,

There's so many out there that are looking to spend fifteen hundred, two thousand, twenty five hundred and trying to get results.

And that's the type of client that we used to have.

And, you know, we turn those down every single day.

So right now our focus is bottom line growth.