Joe Biden

A lot of people would think that.

Well, that's absurd.

Those are narrow-minded people.

I mean, you need to be spiritual to be successful.

Success is having a spiritual life, period.

It's interesting, because I had this boyfriend some time ago, and what I...

After we broke up, we saw each other years later and I was telling him about cabal.

He's like, oh yeah, that makes a lot of sense because you grew up as Catholic.

I know how religious your mother was.

And I was like, no, no, that's not what it is at all.

It's got nothing to do with religion.

Everybody has to find the path that speaks to them and resonates with them.

But I do think it's important to have one.

And I dare say if you didn't have a spiritual path, you wouldn't be as successful as you are today.

I will make that assumption.

in your work, in your marriage, in your friendships, all your relationships.

Honestly, it sounds like a cliche, your spiritual life even.

But it's just got a bad rap.

You 100% can have a spiritual life and be successful.

I wouldn't be here if I didn't have one.