Joe Flint

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290 appearances 9 recordings 2 series first heard Nov 2024 last heard 5 Mar

Joe Flint’s voice in public audio — every appearance, attributed to the second.

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Certainly, there's always been an argument to be made that given the debt, given all the things that we need to cut and look at where we spend our money and what we need to invest in and what we don't, that public media maybe isn't the priority it was when the Public Broadcasting Act was created in 1967. And in the grand scheme of things, it's a relatively small amount of money.
But nonetheless, it's still $535 million a year. It's not a drop in the bucket. So, I mean, you know, is there a rationale that it should be at least discussed? Yeah.
I think it is safe to say that this administration is targeting media outlets whose coverage it doesn't like. So we've seen it go after ABC and CBS. We've seen Trump be very critical of MSNBC and its parent, Comcast Corporation. And in going after NPR and PBS, he has the added leverage of CNN. trying to use the power of an executive order to end government funding for public broadcasting.
So obviously with public media, that he has the power to strangle their money and force them to basically get their funding from somewhere else.
I would describe it, I mean, on the one hand, it's a similar type of pregame show to Inside the NFL or the types of shows we see on ESPN before big events. But it's much more than that.
They just have a really great vibe between all of them and they gel and sometimes there's tension between them and they speak in a way that does not feel manufactured. They're there to give the fans their view and without regard of how it may play with the teams that they're talking about or the league.
So it's a very complex, very unusual deal, but one that I think will keep fans happy, the league happy, and hopefully the cast of Inside the NBA as well, because they also need to all get on board with this.
TNT first started carrying the NBA all the way back in 1989. So, you know, this is a very long relationship. And way back then, TNT also had for a while NFL football. Sports was a big part of putting TNT on the map.
Their chief executive, David Zaslav, made clear that they were going to be very careful in how they were spending money on content. That's entertainment content, sports content. He famously said in an investor conference about almost two years ago now, hey, we don't need the NBA.
And whether that was a negotiating ploy or just a belief that they could get by fine without this sport that has been very important to TNT, who knows? But it certainly meant that this was going to be a much more confrontational negotiation than previous ones.
Netflix is going to carry two NFL games at Christmas. Amazon has Thursday night football. Apple has a lot of baseball. All these companies that are trying to carve out their space in the entertainment universe bet on sports.
Certainly TNT could have kept airing inside the NBA, but I don't think it would have done as well for them there without the games to bring in an audience, and it's an expensive show. for them to air without the benefit of it serving as a promotional platform for their basketball games. These folks get paid, you know, good salaries.
So while they could have kept airing it and it might have had an audience, it wouldn't have been nearly as impactful both for TNT and for the NBA.
Well, certainly the most outspoken of those four was Barkley, who expressed a lot of disappointment in Turner for losing the NBA. A lot of concern about the people at Turner whose jobs and livelihoods were dependent on the NBA and inside the NBA.
I think they were all disappointed, obviously, that a place that had been their home and the home of the NBA for so many years was suddenly left out in the cold.
Their claim was that they had rights to match that the NBA did not honor. So in this case, Warner did make a matching offer on the NBA package that Amazon had. That was the package they decided they were going to try to match. It was sort of a last-ditch effort, and it was comparable to the $1.9 billion Amazon was paying.
However, the league ultimately decided there were other aspects to the Amazon deal that made it more valuable to them. And so that's what led TNT to sue. They essentially claimed that there was a breach of contract and the league was saying basically the claims are without merit.
Well, I would say in terms of getting, if you look at TNT and Warner Discovery, they certainly didn't win in the sense of getting NBA games back on TNT. That ship is now officially sailed, but they did receive rights at no cost
to NBA games in many international markets, including the Nordics, Denmark, Norway, also Poland, a lot of Northern Europe and Latin America, with the exception of Brazil and Mexico.
Well, I think there's two things going on. One, I do think ESPN recognized the value inside the NBA could bring to it. And at the same time, ESPN has a lot of college football and college basketball. You might say they have a surplus of it.
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