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The Journal.
Netflix’s Fight for Warner Just Got Harder

Netflix, when they put out their earnings letter every quarter, when Netflix does an earnings letter, they used to like to say that they don't just view their competitors as Disney+.

The Journal.
Netflix’s Fight for Warner Just Got Harder

Fortnite is a competitor.

The Journal.
Netflix’s Fight for Warner Just Got Harder

Sleep is a competitor.

The Journal.
Netflix’s Fight for Warner Just Got Harder

Sleep is a competitor.

The Journal.
Netflix’s Fight for Warner Just Got Harder

So they view anything as a competitor.

The Journal.
Netflix’s Fight for Warner Just Got Harder

They would argue that the streaming market includes TikTok, includes Facebook with all their videos now, Instagram.

The Journal.
Netflix’s Fight for Warner Just Got Harder

You can't just look at Netflix versus Disney+, versus Paramount+.

The Journal.
Netflix’s Fight for Warner Just Got Harder

In fact, in that world, they argue that they actually, as a company, have a smaller market share of TV viewing than Paramount.

The Journal.
Netflix’s Fight for Warner Just Got Harder

But what Paramount is going to argue and what the Justice Department will have to decide is whether that is just too broad a way to look at this marketplace.

The Journal.
Netflix’s Fight for Warner Just Got Harder

That it needs to be looked in a more narrow fashion of subscription video service providers

The Journal.
Netflix’s Fight for Warner Just Got Harder

Paramount kind of dismisses the idea that TikTok or Instagram can be seen as competitors in the streaming world.

The Journal.
Netflix’s Fight for Warner Just Got Harder

David Ellison said, look, that's like Coke tries to buy Pepsi and the deal gets approved because Budweiser is seen as an alternative to Coca-Cola.

The Journal.
Netflix’s Fight for Warner Just Got Harder

it's not and he said you know the next maker of game of thrones isn't going to go to instagram or tick tock to make their show they're gonna go to a hollywood powerhouse so that's going to be really what the thrust of the argument will be there will be other issues too about the consolidation of movie studios and what that could mean for the theatrical business what it means for creative talent

The Journal.
Netflix’s Fight for Warner Just Got Harder

But those are issues both companies are going to have to answer.

The Journal.
Netflix’s Fight for Warner Just Got Harder

So it really comes down to defining what the streaming marketplace is.

The Journal.
Netflix’s Fight for Warner Just Got Harder

I think it's both those things.

The Journal.
Netflix’s Fight for Warner Just Got Harder

I think some would argue in many ways Netflix has already taken over Hollywood or at least radically changed the landscape out here.

The Journal.
Netflix’s Fight for Warner Just Got Harder

But Hollywood is always, even now, all these years later, a little distrustful of Netflix.

The Journal.
Netflix’s Fight for Warner Just Got Harder

They're still seen as a disruptor.

The Journal.
Netflix’s Fight for Warner Just Got Harder

So Netflix, in many ways, already is the big force out here, and that's why so many people are a little bit scared about them even getting bigger with Warner.