Joe Kent

There's a theory and I've seen leveled against you within MAGA.

One was, Joe, to be a truly loyal patriot, you know, you should have stayed in the administration and you should have continued to work at this end.

I believe I speak to probably.

some of the same people of those mind in the administration.

And that's their theory is I need to stay in order to try and effectuate what kind of change I have.

You clearly felt that the situation was so dire that you had to end up resigning.

So talk us through that process and what that interim three week period before your resignation ended up happening.

What was going through your mind?

So I completely understand the theory that you laid out.

And it's just like, I'll stay here.

I'll stay at my level.

And I will continue to make a difference from the inside.

I'll soldier on.

And quite frankly, I did that for over 20 years.

And I didn't see a result.

And I did it for over a year here in this administration.

I think there's some places where we had some very significant victories.

um however i felt like i had reached my maximum level of effectiveness and quite frankly just because i had pledged to myself so many years ago that i would take action at a time like this i i felt called to do this but i do think you we we need to have a multi-pronged strategy and part of the strategy is keeping people that are on the inside and i say strategy i don't mean i'm i'm conspiring with anybody i don't want to start a witch hunt within the administration

But I think we need people on the inside who are still going to try to steer the ship.

So for people who are frustrated within MAGA and think there should be mass resignations, that wouldn't work any more than everyone staying in, kind of grinding and keeping their nose to the grindstone.