Joe List

I agree.

But I go...

I go, yeah, once a week and then I'm a big meditation and then I'm always reading like some kind of psychology book or philosophy book or listening to them and all that stuff.

What kind of meditation are you into?

I listen to the Waking Up app, which is Sam Harris's meditation app, and it's kind of, I always forget the name, Theravada or some other vada.

It's some of that, but a lot of, yeah, like seeing through the ego and that there's nothing there, nothingness, emptiness, all that kind of stuff.

Yeah, immeasurably.

I mean, I drank a lot, obviously.

And comedy, it's like, it's free drinks, open bar everywhere and all that stuff.

So just, I spent so much time, I would get off stage, I would drink before the show, during the show, after the show.

And so, and having a baby, it's been like so helpful to not be drinking.

My wife and I always talk about, she's sober too, like...

Having to do this hungover, I could not imagine.

And then just not being present for your kid's life and all that stuff.

And basically, I mean, when I hit 30, that's when I quit drinking.

My hangovers were insane.

Like when I was 22, I would get blackout drunk, throw up in a shoe, shit on the floor, wake up and play basketball the next day.

Yeah.

Like I would be like, oh, 10 a.m.

basketball game.