Joe Loya

One thing I'm not doing, I'm not lurching back to the bondage I just escaped from.

And all these kids want to go back.

And I tell you, this is important because it made me feel like, oh, I'm going to start looking at people one way or two ways, one division.

You are either the kind of person who confronts change and emancipation with vigor and fear, yes, but drive and like, I'm going to embrace it.

Or you're a person when change comes and offers you an opportunity like, oh, shit, going to go back, going to lurch back to a bondage.

I'd rather be small.

I'm not going to.

I'm too afraid.

And I'm the guy who goes that way.

So I was always interested in meeting people and taking a measure of them and saying, okay, you're that person or you're that person.

And that night was important to me because I realized I'm the guy who can try and kill their father and be cool with it.

And which means everybody else in the world, you're not even my blood.

The whole world could be a victim to me because if I got over that one taboo thing where you're not supposed to kill your father, you know, that's biblical, that's mythological.

I mean, all the great Greek myth, Roman stories, they have all the—even, you know, Shakespeare literature, father-son shit is important and a big deal.

The dramas between them and killing the father is not a good thing.

So—

I'm that guy, right?

I feel like I have an epic soul.

So that's also part of the arrogance and the narcissism and the grandiosity.

All that's now growing up in me, right?