Joe Loya

I'm banking that it's not, but it could be.

And so your body wants to shut down.

And in my case, on the way to the bank robbery, I would tremble.

My teeth would start grinding.

My stomach would start hurting.

My hands would like jump off the steering wheel.

I just, I couldn't, there's just so much energy in my hands.

Yeah.

And then a wave of fatigue would hit me.

Like if I pulled over, I feel like I would have been in my sleep for three hours.

It was like, it was almost like my body was saying, red line, stop, stop, stop.

Yeah, you get that.

Train crossing.

It was really intense.

And so I would just push through it by bringing up all this rage.

I would just remember humiliating things in my life and the rage would come up and then immediately all the noise would quell in my body and I was still.

And that's how I'd go in and I would march through it.

and get it done, not unlike how I ended up doing what I did as a prisoner, but also how I started with my father.

I just had to get done.

I was standing there with my dad, can you put it down, put it down?