Joe Mathieu

Lastly, if you were to join me, say, next Wednesday, would we be having the same conversation about a shutdown?

We appreciate the conversation.

House Speaker Mike Johnson, thank you.

You're always welcome on Bloomberg TV and radio.

I sat down with Senator Rand Paul of Kentucky, the lone Republican who has consistently voted against both Republican and Democratic spending bills that would reopen the government.

He's still a no.

And I started by asking him if he thinks he's the last fiscal hawk in his party.

Listen.

I saw the penny plan that you posted on Twitter.

What happens when you walk in the cloakroom and talk to your Republican colleagues then, Senator?

What do they tell you when you try to make your case?

Yeah.

Are people at home talking to you about health care as well, the extent to which there's concern about Obamacare subsidies expiring at the end of the year?

This is the talk.

And the president says that he's in discussions with Democrats about this.

Is that the off ramp?

Well, of course, you know, that's the what Chuck Schumer is calling for.

And Democrats, they want to have a negotiation over these subsidies.

When you hear Schumer shut down and it's almost a drinking game around here at this point, Senator, we hear that every day from Republicans who join us.

Is that a disingenuous line when it comes to describing this situation?