Joe Rogan
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I mean, former governor, Republican governor of Texas.
His life's mission is to promote psychedelics.
I'm so glad.
Oh, I'm so glad.
And this is another, Ibogaine is the best one to start out with because Ibogaine has zero recreational use.
It's zero.
You it's not fun.
Nobody likes it.
It's not a good time.
You throw up, you shit yourself, you freak out for 24 hours.
But when you come back, you're a different person.
And if you're willing to do that, if you're willing to do that, you can change.
You can you could do a lot of fixing.
And maybe even more importantly, be aware of what these little traps, these little deeply carved grooves that your consciousness seems to comfortably slip into over and over again, whether it's alcoholism or gambling or whatever it is.
It seems to just shut those down in a very profound way that you can't get anywhere else.
I mean, that is one of the things that most psychedelics do is they remove that idea completely.
They go, you've got to get rid of this.