Joe Santagato

I really do think that's true.

And I also, I'm not trying to like... I'm not even trying to be...

like the best i'm just trying to like be like me with learning more like with taking something from like anytime we've had conversations and you know we get into these types of discussions like i can take some stuff from there so i can take things from you and be like well i'm taking that and i'm keeping it like and i'm i but in order to do that i think that you have to be at a certain place with yourself where you're willing to tell yourself that you're wrong

You could think something so much and then you have an argument with someone and it's very hard to be like, oh, fuck, I'm wrong.

That person's right.

And completely change your point of view.

I like to think sometimes I can do that, and that helps tremendously.

Like, I really think that everyone has something to offer.

Like, everybody has something that will help you, whether it be—and it could come in the form of, like, horrible advice.

And then, like, that's also helpful.

Well, I don't want to do that.

Exactly.

But you can learn from everyone.

But making it—I think it's a mistake to—

Only look at people that are like your heroes as like the people you need to follow.

There's a lot of people around you that you can get things from that are going to help you.

People who don't know anything about your job or anything like my mom will say something that I'm like, oh, OK.

And it doesn't it's not always applied to the job, but it's also like my life, my actual personality and the way that I approach life.

The only way to grow is to constantly admit when you're wrong.

In my opinion, that feels like I try to take responsibility for everything that goes wrong in my life.