Joe Santagato

I truly try to do that because that's what I can control.

I can't really control how other people are going to react or what's going to happen or whatever.

But when something bad happens to you,

to me, I think that there's an opportunity there when something bad happens to you, where I can learn from this or I can take something from it, or I could just put up a wall and be like, wow, that person's fucked up.

But like, what is your involvement in that?

You know, like something, an easy example is if you're in a relationship and you get cheated on, it's like,

Well, what the fuck?

Like she's a whore.

She's whatever.

But like, what is your involvement actually?

And I'm not saying that let's, let's absolve her, you know, shouldn't have fucked Steve for sure.

But like, what could you get from that situation?

Are you capable of getting to the point of like, even though that I was the safest option and I was taking care of her and I was nicer, I never cheated on her.

I never scream at her.

I clean the house and I do whatever.

Maybe you're boring though.

And that's fine.

Sure.

But like, it's on you in some capacity.

Because even if you are, let's say like a boring guy or it's like super vanilla and it feels like every day is predictable and whatever, and she got bored.