Joe Starkey

They were.

And then they went out under Dan Mews and with terrific additions from Kyle Dubas, and they proved everybody, maybe even themselves, wrong.

And credit to them.

And I'll eat crow like it's bolognese sauce on pasta limits.

That's what I imagine crow looking like.

A big bowl of pasta with red sauce and then crow sprinkled on top.

I think there's a lot more crow in that bowl of pasta than you're giving it credit for.

Especially if the penguins are cooking it up for you and I, who completely didn't see any of this coming.

Completely thought that there was a better chance that they won the lottery for Gavin McKenna.

And my whole point today is we had every reason to believe that.

Correct.

And my other point today is I'm not so sure people inside that building believed anything differently.

I'm not so sure they did.

I think in the early going, they started to gain belief and then it snowballed from there.

And and let's also not forget, as I mentioned, that the guy who rekindled the whole Sid's going to have to get out of here to make the playoffs because it wasn't really being talked about at the time.

was his own agent.

Yes, which is basically admitting this is not a playoff team.

Pretty much.

The moves that you're making is not improving this team.

It's basically making it worse to be able to win the lottery.