Joe Truzman
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So, and the problem too for Hamas is that it may compel others, other Palestinians to say, hey, why don't we form an armed group? If the Israelis are helping Abu Shabab, why can't they help Abu Ahmed, for example, right? Or whoever, right? So, the problem here for Hamas is that new organizations will start popping up, right? These armed organizations that are anti-Hamas.
I think that's in the Israeli calculus here, the Israeli strategy to compel the Palestinian people to rise up against Hamas. It wouldn't surprise me. It's not a for sure thing, of course, but that's something I've suspected here because just this new group, just them alone, even with a weakened Hamas, I don't think they could just beat Hamas by themselves. Hamas is still too large. We'll see.
We're going to start seeing new organizations popping up in the next few weeks and months. Just depends if the war lasts.
Right. So, effectively, they are a nonprofit organization that has replaced the UN or UNRWA and other organizations to effectively deliver aid to the Palestinian people. Now, the big point about this organization is that its goal or one of its methods is to remove Hamas from the equation. Hamas, with previous mechanisms to distribute aid in the Gaza Strip, Hamas was leveraging it.
They were effectively just taking the food, taking the aid for themselves. In this situation, the foundation is able to distribute aid to these organizations or rather to the Palestinian people with a much less Hamas interference. I'm sure some Hamas, right? Hamas, the organization at least, is getting some aid out of it, right? But nothing like it was before.
See, the problem was before Hamas, as I said, they would leverage this aid that would come into the Gaza Strip. How would they do that? They would basically steal it and sell it on the black market, all right? Now, they can't do that, are not nearly in large quantities as they did before. So this is what this new foundation is doing. They're distributing aid to civilians in need.
It just started a few weeks ago. Of course, it's been a bumpy ride, I think, and I'm not surprised. But I think from the last report that I saw is that they've handed out distributed, I believe it was about 8 million meals so far. So, I mean, that's pretty good. But I still think there's a long way to go for them.
Oh, yeah, absolutely. I mean, Hamas used to be deeply involved in the logistics of distributing the aid that was coming into the Gaza Strip. So, yeah, absolutely. Now, the Palestinian people don't have to rely on Hamas to get food. So, it's a big deal and it really hurts Hamas. You can tell that Hamas is hurting just because the way they're acting, all right?
You see they publish these statements, they're completely, of course, against the foundation. And of course, there's a lot of incitement too, not only by Hamas, but by their allies in the Gaza Strip with a lot of these statements that are coming out against Hamas. the foundation.
So, they want... Listen, Hamas said they want the UN, the UNRWA, and the UN back in the Gaza Strip because effectively what Hamas did before was that they were able to control the UN. I mean, they built tunnels and command centers below UNRWA compounds. It was pretty incredible how much these organizations, not only Hamas,
Palestinian Islamic Jihad, for example, they had infiltrated UN organizations and other charities, right? It was a serious problem. And now through this, because of this war, we got to see the evidence of this infiltration, right? What Hamas did with a lot of these charities. So the foundation is there to effectively stop that, right? And well, Hamas doesn't like it.
I mean, you can say that. I know that it's been established earlier this year with Israeli and American backing. And I believe now their chair is Johnny Moore, an evangelical leader. But listen, you know, this is a very difficult situation for any organization to come in into a war-torn territory, all right, and try to distribute food. And to be quite honest with you, I...
Now, I think they're doing a pretty good job because, listen, Hamas, they're going to try, they're going to do what they need to do to undermine this new mechanism, okay?
Right. No, you're definitely not wrong. Yeah. Because listen, effectively what's happening is that Hamas is being replaced as the authority. All right. They're not the authority anymore, at least partially. And they don't want Palestinians to see that. Okay. Because that's where Hamas is losing its power and its grip over the population. And yeah, that's It's going to cause problems for them.
So I think over the next weeks, maybe months, depends if there is a ceasefire, if there isn't a ceasefire, we're going to see a lot more coming out of Hamas, I think. And I hate saying this, I don't like it, but it would not surprise me if we start seeing Hamas activity at these aid sites to specifically undermine it. Just because, again, this is a terrorist organization.
They're going to do whatever it takes to survive. That's the thing. And I wish people would understand, more people would understand that Hamas's priority is itself. Not the Palestinian people. The Palestinian people come in second, maybe even third. Hamas needs to survive, right? And that's what they're trying to do here. So, they will do pretty much anything to ensure that, unfortunately.
So, we have to see. There's still, I think, a long road ahead. Will there be a ceasefire? Who knows? But in between... I think Hamas is going to continue to at least try to undermine what's happening with the foundation, right, with this new mechanism. And of course, they have their own problems with this new emerging militia.
Right. You know, this may sound counterintuitive, to be quite honest with you, but when I start seeing, you know, fresh reports about a possible ceasefire, you know, quite frankly, I don't believe them because we've seen it so many times now, right? Just in recent days, recent weeks, we thought maybe there was going to be a ceasefire. Nothing.
And I'll tell you, I think negotiators are hitting the same roadblock over and over again over the past month, over the past, well, more than a year and a half now. And that is this, that Hamas wants to stay in power. They say, yes, Israel, we'll give you the hostages that we took. But you guys got to get out and we're staying in power.
And Israel says, you know what, we'll give you thousands of Palestinian prisoners for the hostages that took captive on October 7th, but you're not staying in Gaza, right? And I think you're not going to at least govern in Gaza anymore. And that's the problem, I think, that we keep running into. That's why this ceasefire, it gets close, right?
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