Joe Wells

We're back after less time than previously.

Just two weeks.

Imagine what we would look like.

Yeah, three people talking.

You need to give some context to that.

There are a lot of John Robbins t-shirts in my audiences.

I don't know whether that works the other way, but whenever I'm at the Fringe, there'll be a lot of, again, you need to see the show for context, but he sells t-shirts that say, you die, you die, you die, you die.

And I'll often see that in my audience.

You will find out that neither me nor you know what an anorak is.

We thought we did, but we were very wrong.

And when you first say, and I apologize now, when you first said what you thought an anorak was, I wasn't outright rude, but in my head I was thinking, what a fucking idiot doesn't know what an anorak is.

And then I said what I thought an anorak was, and I was also wrong.

It's a third thing.

And also all of the tiers get free access to our book launch, our online book launch.

So join that.

No, here is John Robertson.

Oh, a joy, a joy to be with you.

Can I start with, I don't want to start with, this isn't a criticism per se, but this is the first time I've been disappointed by someone's background because I expected you to sort of live in like a castle or a dungeon or something like that.

That can be our tagline for the podcast.

So just in case some people don't know what the dark room is.