Joe Wiesenthal

But also like – OK.

So the UK in theory has more sovereignty now than it had when it was part of the EU.

What's it doing with that sovereignty?

Because it doesn't look like it's been able to put it – it looks like more or less the struggles of continental Europe and UK are more or less –

shared.

Since we've been talking sort of broad strokes history throughout this, can you give us your thoughts on what is the world that the US is ultimately working towards?

In as much as you can try to eke out a coherent strategy from the Trump administration, what is it that they are working towards?

Hmm.

Other than their affinity for Trump.

You know, there's a million ways we could... I have a million things I could ask you.

Isn't that your cue to ask about Roman Empire history?

Isn't that... You're a middle-aged guy.

Come on.

That's true.

You know what?

I haven't gone through that phase yet.

I have a... You know, you said... I studied Roman history.

So you are always, in fact, thinking about the Roman Empire.

You mentioned that Europe excelled during a period in which there was competition among states, but also the shared, and you used the word, the Christian civilization.

But I'm curious, you mentioned the sort of like the mild liberal, you know, not quite a European nationalism, but this like sort of mild liberal desire for some sort of Europe that exists.