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Joe Wiesenthal

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Alex Imas on Why Economists Might Be Getting AI Wrong

And he's probably the most famous like AI alignment doomer, right?

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Alex Imas on Why Economists Might Be Getting AI Wrong

As soon as we have AGI, the first thing it's going to do is wipe us out in some form.

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Alex Imas on Why Economists Might Be Getting AI Wrong

And a bunch of people within the AI world are like, oh, it's crazy, and these rationalist people, it's a cult, and whatever.

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Alex Imas on Why Economists Might Be Getting AI Wrong

Maybe.

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Alex Imas on Why Economists Might Be Getting AI Wrong

But here's my counterargument.

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Alex Imas on Why Economists Might Be Getting AI Wrong

These people have been more right about the trajectory of AI than 99.999% of the people in the world.

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Alex Imas on Why Economists Might Be Getting AI Wrong

No, no.

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Alex Imas on Why Economists Might Be Getting AI Wrong

Yes, they have because they devoted their – yeah, here's why.

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Alex Imas on Why Economists Might Be Getting AI Wrong

Your argument is probably, oh, well, he didn't believe – he thought LLMs were a dead-end architecture.

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Alex Imas on Why Economists Might Be Getting AI Wrong

He didn't see it happening this way.

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Alex Imas on Why Economists Might Be Getting AI Wrong

Sure, I agree.

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Alex Imas on Why Economists Might Be Getting AI Wrong

But the point is that like in the 90s and early 2000s, he started thinking, whoa, general intelligence is going to be a really big deal soon.

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Alex Imas on Why Economists Might Be Getting AI Wrong

The rest of us just started thinking about this with Chad.

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Alex Imas on Why Economists Might Be Getting AI Wrong

This is a good point.

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Alex Imas on Why Economists Might Be Getting AI Wrong

And then immediately started talking like a Nazi.

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Alex Imas on Why Economists Might Be Getting AI Wrong

Because it was all like Tay, right?

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Alex Imas on Why Economists Might Be Getting AI Wrong

That like Microsoft, like weird chat bot and started talking like a Nazi the next day.

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Alex Imas on Why Economists Might Be Getting AI Wrong

It's really funny.

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Alex Imas on Why Economists Might Be Getting AI Wrong

I thought it's like, let's maybe chill it with the pronouns and immediately go say hello.

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Alex Imas on Why Economists Might Be Getting AI Wrong

That's the lesson.