Joel Parkinson

Everything's wrong.

that's when those kind of type of surfers, I think you'll see that there's, you know, the distance between guys like Ethan Ewing and stuff that when they ride the wave.

allow for the sort of surfing that you're speaking about like waves like bells and jaybay where you can get those like long sort of flowing sections like do you think they've made mistakes in the last sort of 10 years yeah for sure yeah and and it and it plays into the i think some of these waves that we've gone to has really played into the way the surfers from brazil and stuff they're amazing don't get me wrong gabriel medina's

Probably my favorite surfer that's ever lived.

But some of those guys are so strong in that kind of smaller wave trestles environment.

Philippe won a few there.

If you took it to Pipeline or somewhere, I guarantee there's a different winner there.

I remember back in the early meetings when we were talking about that, there was – the talk was that that was going to go, you know, first year was going to be trestles and they were going to make that roving final five around the world, Indo, Indonesia and Bali or wherever you want to like – Looking for the best wave at the time.

Looking for the best flight.

And those first three years, it went straight back to back to back to trestles.

Yeah.

And that's when it went to Fiji.

you know last year then and then it was clipped after that you know they they really probably if they stuck to that and we all got to see five of the best top five serves in the world go and shoot it out on a day of pumping anywhere in the world we're all like i reckon that's a great idea that's cool that's how you finish it yeah but you don't finish it trestle's a great wave but i don't think it's a double a plus wave how much consulting did you did the surfers get for those changes

I was still on tour when they were thinking about doing it.

So all those talks were happening then and I finished in 18.

They were.

Yeah, they'd consult them, I guess.

They, you know, there's a couple of, we have our surfer reps that got in there and voiced their opinion.

But, I mean, a few of us, like, I was pretty excited for the idea.

I thought it was great, you know.