Joey Carson

Like they're just doing it for optics.

Like we need to have a charity so we look like we care.

It's kind of like, I remember the Seinfeld episode where, you know,

One of the guys is like, let's throw some money at a charity.

But I think it's good on a personal level because I actually fundamentally think, and this is the way I've always run companies.

To me, it's like, how can I help?

Even when I come into a company, I didn't come in to be a boss.

I came in to help.

So to me, number one, how can I help?

So on a personal level, and I think it's almost like you invest.

Because when you're giving money to a charity, you're effectively investing in it.

So to me, it wants to be something that I understand.

And by that, maybe I have personal experience with it.

or I know the people and I believe in the mission.

So it's like I care about it and I want to see it grow and prosper, just as I would if I was investing in a business.

On a corporate side, it's a little bit different, and I think it's harder to do.

And unless, it's almost like with a toy drive.

Like that's, you know, elevator, quote unquote, charity, or a model citizen fund that you have.

But it's really like this standalone thing that goes down there.

But to me, it's like,