Joey Durso

so that's so I think Trump I'd be interested to see the dynamic between Trump and the national team because the national team in the US is much more sort of liberal they booed him in New York at the NBA last night right and US sort of soccer fans are left wing liberal anti-Trump people whereas in pretty much every country in the world it's come out it's a sort of

It's come out of a sort of working class thing, whereas in the US it's kind of the opposite.

It's come out of cosmopolitan liberals.

So it's a very different culture.

Yeah, so my whole thing, How Football Shirts Explain the World, I wrote this book a year ago, which is mainly about club shirts, sponsors, gas prom on a German club, you know, the oil companies.

So I sort of thought, what am I going to do for the World Cup?

Because there are no sponsors.

And the reason there are no sponsors is because FIFA don't want people competing with their own sponsors.

You know, they literally, that's why it's banned, because they get billions from Visa, Coca-Cola, all these companies.

And if each, if a country's had one, it would compete against them.

But I quickly realised that actually the World Cup, the international shirts tell all sorts of stories.

They're more sort of historical ones.

The Brazil shirt is a great story.

That iconic yellow shirt you'll see everywhere in the world.

The story is that in 1950, Brazil hosted the World Cup.

They played Uruguay in the final.

Tiny little Uruguay, Brazil.

It was Brazil's sort of coming out party.

It was like...

this sort of slightly obscure country that had this sort of multiracial country was slightly more at ease with itself.