Johanna Mathieu

But when there's an outage, you think, oh, something big has happened.

And that's when we think of the power grid.

So we often focus on the failures as opposed to the successes of the power grid.

This is a great question and one that I'm getting a lot these days.

I think with data centers, there's a lot of interesting challenges.

There's also some new opportunities.

There's a lot of data centers in the queue now.

Different companies want to build data centers.

It's not clear all of these will come about, but we're often looking at the worst case of building them all out.

How is the grid going to supply that?

And it's not just a question of sufficient generation, but also sufficient capacity to transmit the power across the network.

So I was mentioning before transmission and distribution systems.

Those have to enable power to be transferred from the power plant to these new data centers and other types of large loads.

And I also want to mention, we've been talking about data centers, but large load growth.

Load growth is something that we always are dealing with in the power grid.

Years ago, it was air conditioner growth.

More recently, we've talked about electric vehicle growth.

Now we're talking about data center growth.

They all present similar problems, but different problems.

So as you mentioned, some data center companies are thinking about building generation