John A. Gentry

Small, yes, but indicative of a policy.

And what Brennan also did was make specific policy changes

that rewarded the hiring and promotion and awarding to women.

So you began to have a purposeful alteration in the demography of the intelligence workforce.

So it's reached the point now where women who had been

relatively small share of CIA workforce in the 50s, 60s, 70s, now a slight majority.

Majority.

So slightly over 50%.

Last figures I saw, slightly more than 50% CIA employees are women.

But the preferences continue.

So Director Burns is still preferentially hiring women.

Okay, so what's the purpose of all this?

The purpose here now is to

Again, change the demography, but also change the organizational cultures.

And Clapper, Jim Clapper, who was a key part of the Obama team implementers within the

the IC, the intelligence community.

So Clapper was the Director of National Intelligence, the DNI, 2010 to 2017, so most of the Obama period, and Brennan, as I say, the last four years.

both of them made pretty clear that they wanted to change the organizational culture.

One of different ways of looking, thinking about things.

And Brennan says in his book, specifically, he was actually a career CIA officer, retired and then went to work for Obama, who then appointed him back at CIA.