John A. Gentry

Brennan says in his memoir, I didn't like CIA culture, and as I became more senior, I made a determined effort to change this organizational culture.

And what he also did was say that he wanted people, employees, current employees, to be active in defending the progress, his term, progress that he had made in DEI policies.

So you might think, gee, you know, this is an intelligence service.

This has national security implications.

It's a part of the security establishment.

Why are they worried about diversity policies?

Well, because it turned out that this was what the president wanted.

So they were, in fact, pushing this very, very, very hard.

And Brennan said to a Wall Street Journal reporter who interviewed him a few days before he left office in January of 2017, one of these usual, it's the end of your time in office, what are your great accomplishments?

He said, well, it was DEI policies.

So I think in addition to specific statements like that, there's lots of other evidence that in fact what was really driving these people in important ways was altering the workforce.

Altering the workforce.

This was particularly relevant in the Obama years at CIA and the ODNI.

The other agencies were

We're slower in coming around to this.

So you've made a major effort, eight-year effort, to change the way the workforce is going.

And you have done several things, two important ones.

You've altered the demography of the workforce.

You've hired a lot of people

who have both political or ideological interests here, they agree with you.