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John A. Gentry

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The Shawn Ryan Show
#134 John Gentry - Unpacking the Information War Against the U.S.

things that they would do.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#134 John Gentry - Unpacking the Information War Against the U.S.

So they would write stories and feed them to sympathetic journalists who would then publish them verbatim.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#134 John Gentry - Unpacking the Information War Against the U.S.

What they also did was publish, in essence, notes.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#134 John Gentry - Unpacking the Information War Against the U.S.

This is the message we want to get across, point A, point B, and so on.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#134 John Gentry - Unpacking the Information War Against the U.S.

And I then give it to you.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#134 John Gentry - Unpacking the Information War Against the U.S.

So I'm a KGB agent, you're my asset.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#134 John Gentry - Unpacking the Information War Against the U.S.

I give it to you and then you write up my message in your style.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#134 John Gentry - Unpacking the Information War Against the U.S.

So it doesn't look like a KGB product anymore, but you're passing on the message.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#134 John Gentry - Unpacking the Information War Against the U.S.

So again, a wide variety of approaches that were used to provide a consistent general message, but one that would not be obvious.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#134 John Gentry - Unpacking the Information War Against the U.S.

So what they did was develop techniques that were designed specifically

The Shawn Ryan Show
#134 John Gentry - Unpacking the Information War Against the U.S.

to be long-term in goal, long-term in duration, that would be subtle, that would be complementary, and would be hard to both identify and combat.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#134 John Gentry - Unpacking the Information War Against the U.S.

So it was a very effective program.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#134 John Gentry - Unpacking the Information War Against the U.S.

And they actually came up with a name for it back in the 1950s.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#134 John Gentry - Unpacking the Information War Against the U.S.

They call it reflexive control.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#134 John Gentry - Unpacking the Information War Against the U.S.

So you're trying to get... So I'm trying to get you to do what I want

The Shawn Ryan Show
#134 John Gentry - Unpacking the Information War Against the U.S.

but you need to not know that you have been influenced by me."

The Shawn Ryan Show
#134 John Gentry - Unpacking the Information War Against the U.S.

So that has worked very well for the Soviets, and the KGB officers who defected, who were involved in active measures campaigns, have said repeatedly, it really was very easy to fool Westerners, to fool Americans.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#134 John Gentry - Unpacking the Information War Against the U.S.

These were gullible people, and they particularly were

The Shawn Ryan Show
#134 John Gentry - Unpacking the Information War Against the U.S.

were fond of targeting political liberals, not hard conservatives and not hard leftists.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#134 John Gentry - Unpacking the Information War Against the U.S.

And again, to go back to Willy Munzenberg's Innocence Clubs, they wanted to create a lot of allies as part of the effort to subvert the country as a whole.