John A. Gentry

And their argument was that it was relatively easy to subvert, to fool liberals for two reasons.

One, liberals were generally sympathetic to the Soviet view, but not wholly in the Soviet camp.

They weren't communists.

And secondly, because they were generally sympathetic, they didn't ask a lot of questions about sourcing, about accuracy.

So they found that it was easy, easy to fool liberals.

And what they also did, importantly for what's going on here now in 2024 on the campuses, is that they worked the universities.

So they were pushing materials on the universities.

The Russians were.

Yeah, Soviets, and now the Russians are doing it too.

Well, the governments of these countries, I think, at this point are not.

So they influenced enough early on so that they were able to get enough friends, if you will, either committed Marxists or fellow travelers, to now do this on their own.

to back up and go a little bit different direction, if I might put it a complimentary way.

There was a group of people in the teens and 20s and then in the 1930s, good Marxists, wanted revolution, wanted that good, perfect world that Marx promised.

but realized that the economic conflict that Marx had talked about was not going to work.

So as you recall, Marx postulated that there were two competing groups in the world, capitalists and workers, the proletariat.

Their interests were incompatible, and that at some point the proletariat would overthrow the capitalists and we'd have a perfect world forever.

Well, the problem was that workers

didn't see the world the way Marx did.

And they said, gee, you know, capitalism seems to work pretty well for us, too.

If we contribute here, we can do better for ourselves and for our families, too.