John Case

Why, why the judge rule that?

What, how did he come to that ruling?

He said that it was irrelevant.

If you can believe it, he said it was irrelevant and that it would confuse the jury if they knew that, um,

that the machines potentially could be rigged and that Tina was performing a federal duty.

He refused to instruct the jury on Tina's main defense, which was execution of a public duty.

The judge refused to allow the jury even to see a copy of the federal statute that Tina was obeying, 52 USC 20701.

So,

We you know, we only one side of the case was presented.

The prosecution side, we didn't get to present ours.

And that's the basis of the appeal.

That's the basis of the appeal.

They're saying that that appeal and what you're doing there is part of the reason that they're not going to at least one of the excuses they use.

Can you just get us up to speed on what is the overall plan here?

The president is pardoned.

There's now this huge controversy of whether that has traction.

You've got justice working on a bunch of stuff.

I hear there's grand juries all over the place.

Can you just give us the big picture of what's the effort and how President Trump's pardon ties into?

Because what this audience wants is Tina Peters' freedom, and particularly Tina Peters' freedom by Christmas.