John Cohen

We just held a major conference in South Carolina.

Those folks want to win.

They don't want a party that is deeply connected to and associated with hateful, bigoted extremists like Hassan Piker.

That is their priority.

is winning, beating back Trumpism and expanding the map, they know in their bones that to do that, you don't become a mirror image of the other party, the right wing, that is extremist and bigoted.

We don't need two extremist parties in this country.

If Democrats are going to beat MAGA and expand the map in the House, the Senate, and the White House, the only way to do that is to offer an alternative to the extremism of Trumpism, not to mirror it.

How do you know that?

So in 2025, in the off year elections, right, Mondani, a Democratic socialist, won in New York.

Right.

And Sheryl and Spanberger won in New Jersey and Virginia.

They were both moderates.

Yeah.

Where was turnout higher?

New York, Virginia, or New Jersey?

That feels like an unfair question from a local to statewide election.

Like, come on.

Like, that's a trick question.

That's not a trick question.

It was higher in Virginia and New Jersey.