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John Collison

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587 total appearances

Appearances Over Time

Podcast Appearances

The a16z Show
From Models to Mobility: Building Waymo with Dmitri Dolgov

There are still large, high-capacity off-board models.

The a16z Show
From Models to Mobility: Building Waymo with Dmitri Dolgov

There's the Waymo driver, there is the simulator, and then there's the critic.

The a16z Show
From Models to Mobility: Building Waymo with Dmitri Dolgov

And those then get distilled into smaller models that you can run inference on faster.

The a16z Show
From Models to Mobility: Building Waymo with Dmitri Dolgov

So the Waymo driver becomes the backbone, the male backbone of what's in the car.

The a16z Show
From Models to Mobility: Building Waymo with Dmitri Dolgov

The simulator, of course, is what powers our synthetic generative environment that can run on the cloud for training and for evaluation in close-up of the system.

The a16z Show
From Models to Mobility: Building Waymo with Dmitri Dolgov

And the critic... Sorry, does the simulator ever run locally?

The a16z Show
From Models to Mobility: Building Waymo with Dmitri Dolgov

No.

The a16z Show
From Models to Mobility: Building Waymo with Dmitri Dolgov

No, it doesn't.

The a16z Show
From Models to Mobility: Building Waymo with Dmitri Dolgov

However, what I think is interesting, in a way,

The a16z Show
From Models to Mobility: Building Waymo with Dmitri Dolgov

the way the decoder works the way the model works if you think about the generative task in the simulator of kind of creating those realistic worlds and how you know other people behave how you know cars pedestrians cyclists in order and the task that you have to solve on the car in real time there is this ta you know a fundamental shared

The a16z Show
From Models to Mobility: Building Waymo with Dmitri Dolgov

capability of understanding how these objects relate to each other and predicting what they might do in the future if you are running on the car and then generating those, you know, some sampling those probabilistic behaviors in a simulator.

The a16z Show
From Models to Mobility: Building Waymo with Dmitri Dolgov

So it's different models, but there is, you know, this is why the shared foundation model is

The a16z Show
From Models to Mobility: Building Waymo with Dmitri Dolgov

able to power both.

The a16z Show
From Models to Mobility: Building Waymo with Dmitri Dolgov

And similarly, if you think about the critic, like the job of the critic is to find interesting events and then, you know, be opinionated about what's good behavior and what's bad behavior.

The a16z Show
From Models to Mobility: Building Waymo with Dmitri Dolgov

Similar fundamental understanding, right?

The a16z Show
From Models to Mobility: Building Waymo with Dmitri Dolgov

If you're running, you know, inference on the car, you still have to like figure out which of the multiple hypotheses of these future worlds

The a16z Show
From Models to Mobility: Building Waymo with Dmitri Dolgov

you want to take action to steer it towards.

The a16z Show
From Models to Mobility: Building Waymo with Dmitri Dolgov

So you start with the foundation model.

The a16z Show
From Models to Mobility: Building Waymo with Dmitri Dolgov

Then you specialize in fine-tune to the off-board model.

The a16z Show
From Models to Mobility: Building Waymo with Dmitri Dolgov

Those are the teachers.