John Cornyn
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And that place is the Senate.
And so there's not the votes right now.
As I know, the majority leader Thune has told President Trump, there's not the votes now to change that.
So that's that's where we are.
Well, we're at the early stages, but of course, this debate is raging on and it's not new.
Democrats are the party of defund the police.
That hadn't worked out too well for them.
And then they wanted to abolish ICE.
And the two tragic incidents in Minneapolis are where people
interfered with law enforcement activities and lost their lives, those are obvious tragedies.
But the lesson is, I think two lessons.
One is sanctuary cities are dangerous because ICE had no real alternative but to arrest these people with final orders of deportation
criminal aliens in the street where typically those handoffs occur in a county jail where the local government respects a federal detainer.
And so you don't have that problem in places like Texas.
But finally, I think one of the lessons that we should all know is to cooperate with law enforcement.
Don't try to interfere with an ongoing law enforcement operation.
These folks are professionals are doing the best they can under very difficult circumstances.
And I stand firmly with President Trump and those who believe that we need to enforce our immigration laws.
Thanks, Ben.
Good to talk.